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Old 07-24-2008, 04:03 PM
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It's the Freud's psychoanalytic theory of personality, that in every human mind, there is a unconscious structure that shows the humanity of a person. To simplify it, We can imagine that in our mind there are 3 people named Id, Ego, and Superego worked together as a human named ME

Id
is the human's animal instinct. It works to find the pleasure of life. It is said by Freud that Id is the evil side of a human personality. Id is the one who take the blame when someone losing control and need some release

Ego
is the reality dealer. It comes to the world and take most of the responsibility. It deals with the needs of Id without making the Superego suffered. Ego is the human side of the personality

Superego
is the one who deals with moral and ethics. It gives us borders in everthing we do. Superego is the one who deals with people, where with this consciousness we care about people around us. Family, society, and all.

Which one is the best? According to Freud, Id is the bad guy, Ego is the good guy, and Superego is the holy man. But according to me, we have to have them all in balance. What do you think about this theory? Is it true? Wrong?

How if you apply this theory into your own personality? Do you know your Id, Ego and Superego? Which one is stronger than the other?
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Old 07-25-2008, 01:18 AM
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I think ID is not a bad guys, its just reflect your fundamental desires, animal instinct that still live inside us.

We need ID for us to survive.Just like most animal do for survival.

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Old 07-26-2008, 08:00 AM
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well, perhaps in my case ego is the strongest in my mind but I'm not really sure though. Is there any test to know which one dominating us? ID, ego, or superego? thanks in advance
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Old 07-27-2008, 02:59 AM
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I don't think any of them can be labeled as good or bad guy, it's juat part of our mind
BTW those are Freud concept right, is it still applied in Psycology now?

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Old 07-27-2008, 10:37 AM
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well, many Freud's idea including id, ego, and superego still apply and studied in Psychology lessons.
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I think ID is not a bad guys, its just reflect your fundamental desires, animal instinct that still live inside us.

We need ID for us to survive.Just like most animal do for survival.
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well, perhaps in my case ego is the strongest in my mind but I'm not really sure though. Is there any test to know which one dominating us? ID, ego, or superego? thanks in advance
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I don't think any of them can be labeled as good or bad guy, it's juat part of our mind
BTW those are Freud concept right, is it still applied in Psycology now?
Yeah, that's the stage of your personality. Freud said that every human being is born an evil, but they gain the superego and ego to make them have more humanity in their personality. If you can see, those psycopath doesn't have it, so they don't have the humility, fear, guilt and so on.
This Freud's theory is still learned in psychology as the basic knowledge of human personality. It is still relevant to todays's issues, so it is still applied.

Answering to Grey, well... I don't know which tests to know which personality is dominating, but you can see it from someone's daily activities. if someone Id is dominating he/she will become someone who doesn't care about the society. He/she will become more individual and egoist. If the superego is dominating, he/she will become someone whose in control for everything, even for the society. They just not gonna mess up what's there even it doesn't suit them the most.
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i think every body has three of it, we just dont know which one is superior on us, and yeah maybe right if we too superior at ID we can be a bad guy, but with enroll of time it can changed to be edge of all..
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I think ID is not a bad guys, its just reflect your fundamental desires, animal instinct that still live inside us.

We need ID for us to survive.Just like most animal do for survival.
thats right ID is not really bad,
sometimes we need it
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Old 08-02-2008, 10:58 AM
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That's right, in this cruel world now a day, ID is the most valuable weapon for us to survive. We act actively, aggressive because of ID role. But, of course the Superego will control it and make it calm when it needed.
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Old 08-05-2008, 01:50 AM
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I agree with the posts here that none of the id, ergo or superergo can be labeled as good or bad. They label one as good or bad because they're superergo [i think it's more of their biases] is working.

I see Id as a free flowing water. Moves here and there. Catching anything in its path. In human, it's the basic instinct. The instinct to eat, to drink, to protect ourselves, to hurt someone when our life is threatened, to get mad when being rude on, etc. As the water flows around, it either gets nutrients from the soil... or debris and other pollutants.

Ergo comes along the way. The strainer, the dam, the one that separates solids from liquids, the one that cleanses the water.... cleanses the id. It regulates the doings of the id, regulates the raw power of the id. "That's reality, Id. Your dirt stay here, and you can go freely to the world."

Then comes the superergo, the purifier, which asks the questions, "will this water be beneficial to the society? Will it be a safe drinking water? Will it have long-term effects on human health? Are there hidden contaminants that can be harmful to the body?" . . . Is the id, cleansed by the ego and purified by the superego, beneficial for all concerned?

Hehe. Just a thought.
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I think every man is egoistic, its a human nature but superego should not be there .we should know our status first and then behave according to that.
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Id
I think this represents me the least. I hardly push responsibility. In fact, I tend to be too hard on myself and shoulder most responsibility.

Ego
I think this sounds like the brain. It tends to analyze and is more logical. I am someone who tends to think a lot but much of my thinking may not be logical.

Superego
I think this represents me most. I tend to use the heart more and makes my decision based on how my heart feels.

I believe this theory, to a certain extent, describes man. However, man is too complex to be described using this.

I prefer Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs. It describes Man's needs quite correctly.
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thats right ID is not really bad,
sometimes we need it
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That's right, in this cruel world now a day, ID is the most valuable weapon for us to survive. We act actively, aggressive because of ID role. But, of course the Superego will control it and make it calm when it needed.
it is true. ID is our animal instinct. something that protect us when we are endangered or getting into hard situation where ego and superego cannot handle the situation anymore. it is usually more in our emotions and when we released the anger..

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I agree with the posts here that none of the id, ergo or superergo can be labeled as good or bad. They label one as good or bad because they're superergo [i think it's more of their biases] is working.

I see Id as a free flowing water. Moves here and there. Catching anything in its path. In human, it's the basic instinct. The instinct to eat, to drink, to protect