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Old 08-06-2008, 03:28 AM
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There are no person in this world that never lies to someone. It's a basic instinct of human. Even liars agree that lying is wrong, to the extent that they do not wish to be lied to and to lose their way, there are some remarkable special cases in our society, we justify some lies and are resigned to others. The common examples are:
1. Private spheres
Every person have a secret that no one may knows. He/she would even lies to someone to keep that secret remains. It's called private spheres.
2. Lying in business
The great competitiveness in world has forced people to lies each another. They may tolerate an environment in which they are routinely lied to if the financial opportunity is large enough and especially if they are of the type who can thrive in an environment of lies.
3. Excuses
The statement "I had to lie" is never true, because there are other choices which we evaluated but found too costly.

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Old 08-06-2008, 03:34 AM
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I prefer to mention with the excuse of because sometime sometime lie that represent the kindliness to close over something matter which can memperparah circumstance.
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There are no person in this world that never lies to someone. It's a basic instinct of human. Even liars agree that lying is wrong, to the extent that they do not wish to be lied to and to lose their way, there are some remarkable special cases in our society, we justify some lies and are resigned to others. The common examples are:
1. Private spheres
Every person have a secret that no one may knows. He/she would even lies to someone to keep that secret remains. It's called private spheres.
2. Lying in business
The great competitiveness in world has forced people to lies each another. They may tolerate an environment in which they are routinely lied to if the financial opportunity is large enough and especially if they are of the type who can thrive in an environment of lies.
3. Excuses
The statement "I had to lie" is never true, because there are other choices which we evaluated but found too costly.

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I've heard about deception theory, but never heard about this theory... I would like to learn about it more, can you give me the source? at least the founder of theory so I can browse a little to learn about this?
Thank you
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Old 08-09-2008, 03:29 PM
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I've heard about deception theory, but never heard about this theory... I would like to learn about it more, can you give me the source? at least the founder of theory so I can browse a little to learn about this?
Thank you
I have the same question with Klaudine ...

Well ... if i have to answer your question first, then i have to admitted that i've done all those lies ...

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Yes.. for me at some reasons lying is a better way and it is permitted by my religion... if the reason is to make some one more positive. But, it can't denial that everyone had ever lied to anyone.
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i'm lying for my own self.. if i must lie to make me happy.. that's no problem for me.. lol! i know that's bad but i think it's okay for doing that thing
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Old 09-22-2008, 11:13 AM
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There are no person in this world that never lies to someone. It's a basic instinct of human. Even liars agree that lying is wrong, to the extent that they do not wish to be lied to and to lose their way, there are some remarkable special cases in our society, we justify some lies and are resigned to others. The common examples are:
1. Private spheres
Every person have a secret that no one may knows. He/she would even lies to someone to keep that secret remains. It's called private spheres.
2. Lying in business
The great competitiveness in world has forced people to lies each another. They may tolerate an environment in which they are routinely lied to if the financial opportunity is large enough and especially if they are of the type who can thrive in an environment of lies.
3. Excuses
The statement "I had to lie" is never true, because there are other choices which we evaluated but found too costly.

What about you?

The ability to deceive manifests at around the age of 3 - this is massively before physical maturation and suggests that the ability to deceive is important. For instance it 'predates' the loss of egocentricity. Children learn to deceive others BEFORE they can comprehend fully that others have a separate point of view from their own.
The ability to deceive or lie is useful in the social constructionism one is forced to particpate in. I am not talking about 'playing' here - in itself an important tool/aspect of the child making sense of the world - we are talking about lying. The ability to project an idea opposite to the actual reality of a situation allows the individual to redesign reality into a more palatable, negotiated position.
In effect the world we construct, the reality we negotiate, is based entirely on falsehoods - for it is impossible for our language to truly and accurately communicate concepts - for all intents and puposes reality becomes 'Lost in Translation'.
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